Drove another 600 miles this week, lots of rain and even more traffic, also took a trip to the local mechanic, not tire related but I can in fact confirm that these tires still appear nearly new. As I've mentioned before these tires handle admirably well under bad weather conditions. The weather has gotten a bit wamrer so ice mud is no longer a concern for now, though these tires gave a good answer to even that. Snow coming tomorrow they say, so I'll have more information on how these tires perform in the ice and snow shortly there after I will say that after last storm though I have the utmost belief in these ever handy tires. Honest Abe seems to agree with my mechanic and thats good enough for me well folks till next time keep driving my friends!