Overall this is a good tire with good handling on dry, wet, snow....but its performance on ice is a buzzkill. I just fishtailed badly on black ice up in Maine. I don't think this would have happened on the Hakka r2 suv. I suggest Nokian look into improving this tires ice performance. I'll be putting the Hakkr 2 suv winter tire on next year and leaving these wrg3 on through the spring and summer so Im interested to see how they wear.