Well we finally got some snow last week. I took the car out to a local establishment for some music and got to experience the Hakkas in their element for the first time on the way. We got out after a couple inches had fallen, enough to make the roads slick and my neighbors drive like fools. I immediately fell in love with the level of grip these provide. Then I used the brakes for the first time and about went through the windshield! The braking on these tyres is GREAT! The drive home after the show was just as fantastic. My roomie(also a subaru fanatic and owner) was sold, will purchase Hakkas for her next winter set. I really can't wait until we get a real snow here so I can get out to a few lots I use for winter footage.